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David Boree

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. It's a reasonable conclusion for him, so I don't blame him on this part. But here's the problem. Ziz is trying to break into and succeed in the tech industry. And you are very unlikely to succeed at a high level in the tech industry if you are unwilling to do things and have things done to you that are unethical and fucked up. I'm not saying this is good.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And this is the reality of the entertainment industry too, right? When I started, I started with an unpaid internship. Unpaid internships are bad, right? It's bad that those exist. They inherently favor people who have money and people who have family connections. You know, I had like a small savings account for my job in special ed. But that was the standard.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And this is the reality of the entertainment industry too, right? When I started, I started with an unpaid internship. Unpaid internships are bad, right? It's bad that those exist. They inherently favor people who have money and people who have family connections. You know, I had like a small savings account for my job in special ed. But that was the standard.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And this is the reality of the entertainment industry too, right? When I started, I started with an unpaid internship. Unpaid internships are bad, right? It's bad that those exist. They inherently favor people who have money and people who have family connections. You know, I had like a small savings account for my job in special ed. But that was the standard.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

It's like there were a lot of unpaid internships. It got me my foot in the door. It worked for me. I also worked a lot of overtime that I didn't get paid for. I did a lot of shit that wasn't a part of my job to impress my bosses, to make myself indispensable so that they would decide like we have to keep this guy on and pay him. And it worked for me.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

It's like there were a lot of unpaid internships. It got me my foot in the door. It worked for me. I also worked a lot of overtime that I didn't get paid for. I did a lot of shit that wasn't a part of my job to impress my bosses, to make myself indispensable so that they would decide like we have to keep this guy on and pay him. And it worked for me.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

It's like there were a lot of unpaid internships. It got me my foot in the door. It worked for me. I also worked a lot of overtime that I didn't get paid for. I did a lot of shit that wasn't a part of my job to impress my bosses, to make myself indispensable so that they would decide like we have to keep this guy on and pay him. And it worked for me.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And I just wanted to add, because this is not in the original thing, a big part of why it worked for me is that I'm talking about a few different companies here, but particularly at Cracked, where I had the internship, like my bosses, you know, made a choice to mentor me and, you know, to get me, you know, to work overtime on their own behalf to like make sure I got a paying job.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And I just wanted to add, because this is not in the original thing, a big part of why it worked for me is that I'm talking about a few different companies here, but particularly at Cracked, where I had the internship, like my bosses, you know, made a choice to mentor me and, you know, to get me, you know, to work overtime on their own behalf to like make sure I got a paying job.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And I just wanted to add, because this is not in the original thing, a big part of why it worked for me is that I'm talking about a few different companies here, but particularly at Cracked, where I had the internship, like my bosses, you know, made a choice to mentor me and, you know, to get me, you know, to work overtime on their own behalf to like make sure I got a paying job.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

which is a big part of like the luck that I encountered that a lot of people don't. So that's another major part of like why things worked out for me is that I just got incredibly lucky with the people I was working for and with. That's bad. It's not good that things work that way, right? It's not healthy.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

which is a big part of like the luck that I encountered that a lot of people don't. So that's another major part of like why things worked out for me is that I just got incredibly lucky with the people I was working for and with. That's bad. It's not good that things work that way, right? It's not healthy.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

which is a big part of like the luck that I encountered that a lot of people don't. So that's another major part of like why things worked out for me is that I just got incredibly lucky with the people I was working for and with. That's bad. It's not good that things work that way, right? It's not healthy.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

That said... If I am giving someone – if someone wants what is the most likely path to succeeding? I've just got this job working at this production company or a music studio. I would say, well, your best odds are to make yourself completely indispensable and become obsessively devoted to that task, right? That's – I don't tend to give that advice anymore.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

That said... If I am giving someone – if someone wants what is the most likely path to succeeding? I've just got this job working at this production company or a music studio. I would say, well, your best odds are to make yourself completely indispensable and become obsessively devoted to that task, right? That's – I don't tend to give that advice anymore.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

That said... If I am giving someone – if someone wants what is the most likely path to succeeding? I've just got this job working at this production company or a music studio. I would say, well, your best odds are to make yourself completely indispensable and become obsessively devoted to that task, right? That's – I don't tend to give that advice anymore.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I have, and I have had several other friends succeed as a result of it. And all of us also burnt ourselves out and did huge amounts of damage to ourselves. Like I am permanently broken as a result of, of, You know, the 10 years that I did 80 hour weeks and shit, you know, now you're sounding like somebody who works in the entertainment industry. Yes.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I have, and I have had several other friends succeed as a result of it. And all of us also burnt ourselves out and did huge amounts of damage to ourselves. Like I am permanently broken as a result of, of, You know, the 10 years that I did 80 hour weeks and shit, you know, now you're sounding like somebody who works in the entertainment industry. Yes.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

I have, and I have had several other friends succeed as a result of it. And all of us also burnt ourselves out and did huge amounts of damage to ourselves. Like I am permanently broken as a result of, of, You know, the 10 years that I did 80 hour weeks and shit, you know, now you're sounding like somebody who works in the entertainment industry. Yes.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And it worked for me. Right. I got up. I got it. I succeeded. I got a great job. I got money. Most people, it doesn't. And it's bad that it works this way. Ziz, unlike me, is not willing to do that. right? She thinks it's wrong to be asked to work overtime and not get paid for it. And so on her first day at the job, she leaves after eight hours and her boss is like, what the fuck are you doing?