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David Boree

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And it worked for me. Right. I got up. I got it. I succeeded. I got a great job. I got money. Most people, it doesn't. And it's bad that it works this way. Ziz, unlike me, is not willing to do that. right? She thinks it's wrong to be asked to work overtime and not get paid for it. And so on her first day at the job, she leaves after eight hours and her boss is like, what the fuck are you doing?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And it worked for me. Right. I got up. I got it. I succeeded. I got a great job. I got money. Most people, it doesn't. And it's bad that it works this way. Ziz, unlike me, is not willing to do that. right? She thinks it's wrong to be asked to work overtime and not get paid for it. And so on her first day at the job, she leaves after eight hours and her boss is like, what the fuck are you doing?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And she's like, I'm supposed to be here eight hours. Eight hours is up. I'm going home. And he calls her half an hour later and fires her, right? And this is because the tech industry is evil, you know? Like, this is bad. She's not bad here. It is like a thing where it's, she's not doing by her standards.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And she's like, I'm supposed to be here eight hours. Eight hours is up. I'm going home. And he calls her half an hour later and fires her, right? And this is because the tech industry is evil, you know? Like, this is bad. She's not bad here. It is like a thing where it's, she's not doing by her standards.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

And she's like, I'm supposed to be here eight hours. Eight hours is up. I'm going home. And he calls her half an hour later and fires her, right? And this is because the tech industry is evil, you know? Like, this is bad. She's not bad here. It is like a thing where it's, she's not doing by her standards.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

What I would say is the rational thing, which would be if all that matters is optimizing your earning power, right? Right. Well, then you do this, then you do do whatever it takes. Right. Um, so it's kind of interesting to me, like that, that she is so devoted to this, like virtue ethics thing at this point that she fucks over her career in, in the tech industry.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

What I would say is the rational thing, which would be if all that matters is optimizing your earning power, right? Right. Well, then you do this, then you do do whatever it takes. Right. Um, so it's kind of interesting to me, like that, that she is so devoted to this, like virtue ethics thing at this point that she fucks over her career in, in the tech industry.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

What I would say is the rational thing, which would be if all that matters is optimizing your earning power, right? Right. Well, then you do this, then you do do whatever it takes. Right. Um, so it's kind of interesting to me, like that, that she is so devoted to this, like virtue ethics thing at this point that she fucks over her career in, in the tech industry.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Um, cause she's not willing to do the things that you kind of need to do to, to, to succeed, you know, in the place that she is. Um, But it's interesting. I don't, like, give her any shit for that. So she asks her parents for more runway to extend her time in the Bay, and then she finds work at another startup. But the same problems persist.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Um, cause she's not willing to do the things that you kind of need to do to, to, to succeed, you know, in the place that she is. Um, But it's interesting. I don't, like, give her any shit for that. So she asks her parents for more runway to extend her time in the Bay, and then she finds work at another startup. But the same problems persist.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Um, cause she's not willing to do the things that you kind of need to do to, to, to succeed, you know, in the place that she is. Um, But it's interesting. I don't, like, give her any shit for that. So she asks her parents for more runway to extend her time in the Bay, and then she finds work at another startup. But the same problems persist.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Quote, they kept demanding that I work unpaid overtime, talking about how other employees just always put 40 hours on their timesheet no matter what, and this exemplary employee over there worked 12 hours a day, and he really went the extra mile and got the job done, and they needed me to really go the extra mile and get the job done.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Quote, they kept demanding that I work unpaid overtime, talking about how other employees just always put 40 hours on their timesheet no matter what, and this exemplary employee over there worked 12 hours a day, and he really went the extra mile and got the job done, and they needed me to really go the extra mile and get the job done.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Quote, they kept demanding that I work unpaid overtime, talking about how other employees just always put 40 hours on their timesheet no matter what, and this exemplary employee over there worked 12 hours a day, and he really went the extra mile and got the job done, and they needed me to really go the extra mile and get the job done.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. I'm so sad that this is part of what shatters your brain. Like that really bums me out. So first off, she's kind of start spiraling and she concludes that she hates virtue ethics. This is where she starts hating Yudkowsky, right? This is, she doesn't come break entirely on him yet, but she gets really angry at this point because she's like, well, obviously virtue ethics don't work. Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. I'm so sad that this is part of what shatters your brain. Like that really bums me out. So first off, she's kind of start spiraling and she concludes that she hates virtue ethics. This is where she starts hating Yudkowsky, right? This is, she doesn't come break entirely on him yet, but she gets really angry at this point because she's like, well, obviously virtue ethics don't work. Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Yeah. I'm so sad that this is part of what shatters your brain. Like that really bums me out. So first off, she's kind of start spiraling and she concludes that she hates virtue ethics. This is where she starts hating Yudkowsky, right? This is, she doesn't come break entirely on him yet, but she gets really angry at this point because she's like, well, obviously virtue ethics don't work. Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Exactly. Exactly. So this is a very damaging thing to her that this happens. And again, as much as I'm blamed Yudkowsky, the culture of the Bay Area tech industry, that's a big part of what drives this person to where she ends up, right? So, that said, some of her issues are also rooted in a kind of rigid and unforgiving internal rule set.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Exactly. Exactly. So this is a very damaging thing to her that this happens. And again, as much as I'm blamed Yudkowsky, the culture of the Bay Area tech industry, that's a big part of what drives this person to where she ends up, right? So, that said, some of her issues are also rooted in a kind of rigid and unforgiving internal rule set.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Exactly. Exactly. So this is a very damaging thing to her that this happens. And again, as much as I'm blamed Yudkowsky, the culture of the Bay Area tech industry, that's a big part of what drives this person to where she ends up, right? So, that said, some of her issues are also rooted in a kind of rigid and unforgiving internal rule set.