David Boree

He claims, and I believe him, that Ziz lied to him about the whole scenario to get his money.

I do think this was essentially a con from her.

He says, quote, Ziz led me to believe that she had established contacts in the Bay and that it would be easy for us to at least get a slip, if not one that was approved for overnight use.

And as it turns out, when we were coming through the inside passage from Alaska, it was revealed that we did not have a place to arrive.

Wait, oh, I didn't realize he sailed it down from Alaska.

Yeah, they all sail it together, them and a couple other rationalists that they pick up.

They make a post on the internet being like, hey, any rationalists want to sail a boat down from Alaska?

Talk about our ideas while we live on a boat.

Oh man.

These people need space.

Yes.

It's Oakland.

Just get a warehouse.

The ghost ship fire had happened by that point.

So I don't think warehouse space was easy to get.

um but this i think this would have i think you're right in an earlier era they would have just wound up living in like a warehouse uh yeah and maybe all died in a horrible fire uh because that there were issues with that kind of life too but they would have been an option besides the boat thing anyway the caleb is not in good shape again this boat is 70 plus years old it is only livable by punk standards and while it was large enough it is a 94 foot boat you can keep some people on there it's also way too big to anchor in most municipal arena

especially since the boat has 3,000 gallons of incredibly toxic diesel fuel, and it's not really seaworthy, which means there's this constant risk of poisoning the waters it sits in that the authorities are just going to be consistently like, guys, you can't have this here.

Guys, you simply can't have this here.

So they just got to operate out in international waters like a cruise ship?

No, they're just kind of illegally anchoring places and hoping that it's fine and periodically getting boarded over it.