David Boree

Look, I love Garrison, but they also have started spending a lot of their time with people who aren't in the same weird Internet doom circles that we are.

And it's been good for them.

It's good for everyone.

Truly.

Save yourselves.

Save yourselves.

It doesn't have to be like this.

So when we left off, Ziz had kind of psychologically jailbroken her friend into suicide and then created an info hazard named after her friend.

Yes.

Great stuff.

Healthy community.

Now, a few things happened in quick succession after this point.

The rationalists start to blame Pasek's suicide on Ziz, and this is really when a lot of folks in rationalist circles start breaking off.

And calling, like saying like, hey, this is – what Ziz and Gwyn are doing, they've made like a cult, right?

And again, I don't think they're really off base here, but also they tend to ignore all of the suicides in the rationalist community, right?

I was going to say they are in a cult.

You know, it's more – because cult is –

I think like you get – like there's a cultic milieu that rationalism forms, which is like the substrate, right?

If a cult is like a plant growing up from it, like rationalism is this soil that is extremely optimized for growing cults.

I think that might be closer.