David Butterfield

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TRIGGERnometry · How Civilisations Die - Ancient Greece Expert David Butterfield · 20 May 2026 podcast

We love athletic prowess.

We love art that is beyond our own individual powers.

We love music and song that we could never make ourselves.

We celebrate excellence.

But in certain political climates, excellence gets in the way of the necessary change that some people want to bring in.

And which is one of the reasons that they have to erode the concept of truth.

And I found what you were saying about truth so powerful because it's permeated everything now.

I did this interview with The Telegraph, and the journalist was great.

And he did a great profile, you know, no qualms.

But even in that sort of conversation where I think people are similar page, et cetera,

He said, well, Constantine talks about something he calls the truth.

And I went, it's not, I call it the truth.

There is a truth.

And that's not to say that I have access to, or David has access to, or Francis has access to, but I thought the point was of inquiry or debate or discussion is we all sit down, we all go, well, I think this is what the truth is.

You think that, okay.

So, and we get closer to that objective reality.

But the moment you say there is no truth and it's my truth and your truth,

Then like you said, the entire foundation of this building is not there and the building collapses.

Exactly.

And it's interesting that you put it that way because that really does bring us back to one of the challenges that fifth century Athens faced.

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