David Cauley
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61 appearances
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1 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
David Cauley’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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It's the middle of the night, working towards morning. They are still running down these other leads, trying to, if something can be done fast, to find Ernie. That's what they're trying to do. So while that camera's running, she takes a nap.
There's a dry erase board on the wall. Every once in a while, she'll stand up and write on the dry erase board, where's my husband? And then turn to the camera and do this shrug, irritated face thing.
She doesn't inquire about her kids. She doesn't ask to be with them. She does, on occasion and throughout her interview, inquire about her husband. But it's not, there's something acting about it. There's something fake about it. What's the last time you fired you?
It's not like you would expect for something to have happened so horribly to someone you love and to you. And then just to be... I don't know, more of putting on a show and less of a real emotion.
She had a few hours in the interview room. The sheriff came in, got frustrated with her, tried to talk to her a little bit, and then eventually says, you know, I think you're lying. I think you know something.
She finally says something like, well, what if I know something and I don't even know that I know it?
And then that kind of opened the door for her to reveal the things that set all of the dominoes in motion.
They push her a little bit. And she said, well, I met this guy, Johnny Reb. That's all I know him as at the hospital. And some things were said about Ernie. And he was saying and she makes his voice, you know, tries to mimic him and says, well, you know, a man shouldn't treat a woman that way. And he seemed really upset about it. But what if he decided to do something on his own?
And she says, and in fact, he's picking her up at the hospital right now, and he's using my car to do it.
So she met Jonathan Sanford and Jose Ponce at the hospital with Sharla. And it was there that Samantha went on and on about her abusive husband and that sort of thing. And how Jonathan said, you know, a woman shouldn't be treated that way. And I would never treat a woman that way. And anybody who does doesn't deserve to live or whatever.
I mean, Jonathan Sanford would be the most hardened criminal out of the bunch. He had been to prison. He had been to prison for sexually assaulting his teen-year-old male cousin, probably a sociopath at the very least.
The sheriff, Aaron Baxter, investigator, with the sheriff's department and John Livingston go to the hospital and they see two guys leaving and they see the two guys kind of separate once law enforcement's there. And the sheriff yells out, Johnny Ram and Sanford pauses or turns. And then within seconds, they grab hold of those two guys. So Sanford is almost like, well, I'm calm.
So might as well just let you know what happened.
Sanford had been to her house before to pick up some baby stuff that Charlotte could use. So Charlotte was Samantha's friend who was pregnant and at the hospital to have her baby.
I do think that they did beat him pretty severely. Jonathan Sanford eventually said, Ernie put up a pretty good fight when they first drug him out of bed. He said, until I hit him in the head with a pistol. And then that pretty much subdued him at that point.
And I asked Sanford, you know, you weren't afraid he was, you know, going to run off. Y'all weren't, as y'all were like rifling through his truck. And Sanford's like, no, he wasn't going anywhere. His breathing was labored. You could tell things were broken and there was internal fluid. And Sanford didn't say it quite eloquently, you know, but basically there wasn't much fight left in him.
Sanford agrees to quickly to show them where the body was and to show them where the gun is. He's not asking for anything for his benefit. He just is agreeing to do it. The sheriff driving Aaron Baxter in the backseat and Jonathan Sanford in the front passenger seat just go where Jonathan tells them to go.
They get out to the middle of this bayou wooded area, and it is also in the middle of nowhere. And Jonathan, you know, takes them to the edge and they see this path. And officers walk down there and go a little ways and they see the body of Ernie, naked except for his blue boxer shorts, lying face down in the leaves and the briars and the underbrush and shot in the back of the head.
Right after this, it started raining, and it rained for weeks. And if they had not found the body when they did, it would have ended up in some bayou in Louisiana because that area flooded, and that would have been the end of it.
I think when she came back in for that second interview, she thought she had everybody fooled.
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