David Deida

might have such a tight knot in their body or mind that they need a form of therapy.

So they may need whatever form somatic therapy to unknot their body.

Or they may need a form of cognitive therapy to help them unknot their mind or release a trauma.

They might want to do trauma therapy.

But all of that is just for to help loosen that relaxation in the openness of their presence.

So over time, it slowly becomes integrated and it's slow.

Another thing that people don't really understand is, you know, you could have this kind of recognition of being

And yet your body and mind continue with the patterns they have before, and your body is the last to change.

Your mind may change first, but you find your body doing things your mind doesn't want to anymore.

So you have to have patience and compassion for yourself and others as well.

These patterns in your body-mind continue to unfold.

You might find yourself lying even though you don't want to lie.

You might find yourself hurting someone even though you don't want to hurt them.

So you...

compassionately allow these past contractions that you stored in your body and mind to open in the spaciousness of your present being and that takes years i mean there are all kinds of stories as you know of people of supposed spiritual depth who act in you know not integrous ways

Pretty much because it's universal.

I mean, it just doesn't change.

It's a false hope, I guess, for it to change.

So there are some highly integrated people who are not that deep.

Some are deep, some are not that deep.