David Duvenaud

So, you know, right now when we all create our own wealth, it doesn't really hurt me if someone else creates their own wealth, like sort of directly from resources.

But in the world where we're all just like living in some like apartments advocating for UBI,

To the extent that the UVI pie is fixed, then we're really just like a bunch of baby birds like cheeping and whoever gets food is like less food for the other guy.

And then this also erodes the sort of like pluralism of values because the government's going to have to have some way of deciding like who gets resources.

And so if they end up having any opinions about like what

way of life is more valuable or needs to be subsidized more or whatever, that could be a threat to you.

So you kind of have to argue like that guy's way of life is less deserving of resources than my way of life.

And so now the government is forced to decide like whose sort of values are most like

Well, the fact of who gets subsidized.

That's the main effect.

Right.

So that's the big thing that's changed.

And there is, of course, a way in which this might not be zero-sum, right?

Like, if humanity manages to convince the AIs or whatever, the government, to give a larger UBI overall, then that is, like, the sort of normal positive-sum thing.

So that might not be, like, a slam-dunk argument.

The other thing, though, I think has been that we haven't had to fear domination by other groups very much.

So we've had strong property rights, right?

Like, I'm not afraid that, like, Elon Musk is going to, like, literally take my stuff, even though he could, like, raise a private army or whatever, right?

We have very little variation in reproductive rates.

It's okay that the Amish live nearby because even if they're having more kids than whatever other population, that's not going to matter over the course of 50 or maybe even 100 years.