David E. Sanger

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The Daily · Did Iran Come Out on Top in the Peace Deal? · 19 Jun 2026 podcast

But the fact of the matter is it all depends here on the details of what they do with it.

If they simply down blend it, there is always the risk that later on they could re-enrich it.

But the important thing to know here is what they're not committing to

which is actually shipping the material out of the country.

Well, during the Obama-era deal in 2015, they actually did agree to ship out about 97% of the stockpile they had at the time.

Now, they built up much more over the past...

eight or nine years since President Trump left that agreement in 2018.

And the fact of the matter is the Iranians have not yet agreed to actually ship it out of the country, which, of course, would be the safest thing from a nonproliferation standard.

Not yet.

So the administration talks a lot about conversations that they have had, understandings they think they have struck with the Iranians on the side.

that would resolve the big nuclear issues.

But that negotiation is going to be so complex that they kicked it to a completely separate set of talks that are supposed to start in the next few days and run for 60 days, although everybody, including the president, has said they expect it to take longer.

That's right.

And you can't even compare these documents because –

The Obama-era agreement was 150 pages of what you do with the material, how you'd inspect it, what kind of facilities you have to close, which ones you can keep open.

It was incredibly detailed.

and the Iranians fought over every paragraph.

So that's not what this document is.

This document's about a ceasefire.

It's only got one paragraph that really deals directly with the nuclear program at all.

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