David E. Sanger

And Trump just sort of reflexively defended the officers and claimed that the driver had run over one of them.

And we had all seen this video and immediately sort of stepped in to challenge the account.

And so Trump said, well, let's just watch it together.

And to our surprise, that's exactly what happened.

Show that.

Yeah, we've seen that one.

We've seen that.

One of his aides brought over a laptop, slowed down a version of the tape.

Does not look like the ICE officer has been run over there.

Now, maybe from a different angle, we would see.

I hate to see it.

It was sort of a strange form of real-time fact-checking of the president, with it clear that the president wasn't entirely comfortable with what he was seeing on that laptop or what these ICE agents were doing.

So just take a step back here, because this...

And then from there, Zola and the president sort of turned to a different topic about what the real aim of the president's immigration restrictions are and who they're supposed to target.

Solon's question is, would you strip them of their...

Solon raises an interesting point.

The only immigrants who can come in right now are white South Africans, right?

Refugees.

The way of refugees.

It sure does.