David Enrich

Thanks for having me.

It's a hard question because there were not huge takeaways.

And we got lots of bits of incremental color and detail that reinforced the deep depravity of Epstein's crimes and the horrible things he was doing.

We also got some new tidbits.

We saw, for example, Bill Clinton

In numerous photos with Epstein and his associates, including in a swimming pool, we saw that one of Epstein's victims back in 1996 had reported him to the FBI for having child sexual abuse material.

And that's a decade before we know the federal prosecutors actually started investigating Epstein.

So that was definitely a new development.

But for the most part, there was nothing here that fundamentally altered our understanding of Epstein and his network, and notably also very little about Donald Trump, whose name was barely mentioned in these files.

And it was Trump's relationship with Epstein that triggered a lot of the political interest in this investigation to begin with.

Yeah, it's worth noting that the Justice Department did not do what it was legally required to do, which was release all of the files.

And those files that were released were in many cases so heavily redacted that you couldn't make any sense of them.

The Justice Department has said that they will release the rest of the files on kind of a rolling basis over the next few weeks and that they need this additional time to be able to properly review and redact these huge quantities of materials.

I mean, it depends on your perspective and what your interest is in this.

from kind of this rags to riches story where he managed to transform himself from a working class family into an extraordinarily rich and well-connected person.

And so we were wondering if there would be any revelations in these files about that.

And we're just completely disappointed in that regard.

Well, Epstein built an extensive sex trafficking operation all over the world, and that was really expensive, and it required the support of a lot of powerful people.

And so the question for us has been, how did he get in a position where he had the money and the power and the connections to do that?

This was a guy who came from a really working class background.