David Epstein

Yeah.

I mean, I would think that most people would guess in their 20s.

21 or something, yeah.

And there are very famous examples of, right?

And that model of, you know, promoting the young founders has obviously had some stellar successes.

But those are very rare.

That's right.

And that's the issue is we focus on the exception, not the norm, right?

Like Mark Zuckerberg dropped out of college, started Facebook.

And he famously said, young people are just smarter.

He said that when he was 22.

You don't hear him saying that anymore, surprisingly.

So I think it's not too late for you to take risks.

I think you should be looking at...

All the things you've done, what are the skills that you've acquired?

I mean, one of the things I think that makes these like 50 year old founder more likely to succeed than a 30 year old founder is they've identified specific problems.

This was another big Tony Fidel thing.

So in this epic disastrous company that I write about in the book called General Magic, all the talent, all the capital.

They said their customer was Joe Sixpack.

And then they turned around after a few years and missed deadlines and said, nobody knows the guy.