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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think some founders still see a name in lights and they go, I want that name beyond anything. If it's Sequoia, A16Z, Accel, you name it, I want that name. And I think there will always be a steady supply of founders who think that way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I don't think they understand that you're gonna, the one in 10, if you're lucky, and those stats are probably not even right, one in 10 get funded, otherwise you're orphaned or you're in a world of hurt because someone that the world thought was like, very, very serious and very smart about. You just said no to you. Go try sell against that. I think it's very, very difficult.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

To our earlier point, those founders come back to us and they say, like, I was orphaned. They don't understand that 90% don't get follow on funding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

You know, there have been times where we didn't break the rules for the best of reasons. The first thing that comes to mind is like Pinterest. The founders came to us and we had a conflict. We had a very strong associate in Zach Klein, who is the chairman of supply. We'd invested in supply. We couldn't make the investment.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I look back and then I go like, how, you know, if you look at that outcome, you go like, how could we have, but we didn't break the rules. And I think there's like financial rules. And then I think there are rules of like loyalty and partnership where you go, that's my name on the door. And I cannot break, those are just unbreakable rules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We're very old school, very old school on that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I'll give you the corollary of that, is there've been companies that I've been very down on. And often it's in enterprise SaaS, where just the sales cycle is so long and you go like, are they ever gonna get there? But I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done, we've lost a lot. This was pre-Founder Collective saying, we have lost our money. Like no, it is never gonna get there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

So I'll give you the corollary of that, is there've been companies that I've been very down on. And often it's in enterprise SaaS, where just the sales cycle is so long and you go like, are they ever gonna get there? But I remember saying to my wife on Olo, this is done, we've lost a lot. This was pre-Founder Collective saying, we have lost our money. Like no, it is never gonna get there.