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David Friedberg

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
6361 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Theoretically, you could increase the price on industrial and commercial consumption by call it 50% and make all residential electricity in the United States free.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

If you're a residential user, you get a cap of free electricity every month.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

And if you use more than that cap, you get charged, but below that cap, you're free based on whatever, square footage of your house, I don't know, whatever.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

And then on the commercial and industrial side,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

the reason you would then have an incentive to build private power systems would be that you can bring your cost down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

And instead of centralizing all of this with the utilities, what it can do is it can force a market demand for industrial and commercial users to build their own power systems, which would increase overall electricity supply in the United States.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

The data centers are the tip of the iceberg, but if you make this a pan-industrial problem, then all of the industrial companies would have to take this path.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

You're talking about residentials?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Right, or they don't have to.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

That's the point.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Like, if they end up... The industrial users will then invest in solar systems.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Yeah, well, here's...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

If the industrial price goes up by 50%, you've now created a market force to drive them to make the investment.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Particularly if you've deregulated.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

I understand the math, but my point is- And you get this first year CapEx depreciation, so they actually get a benefit.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

And instead of putting all of the buildings-

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

I just think it's a lot more complicated and a lot more expensive to add solar to everyone's roof.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

No, your method is way more complicated.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

None of this is free.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Iran's Breaking Point, Trump's Greenland Acquisition, Solving Energy Costs, Billionaire Tax Backlash

Some might say, obscenely.