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David Frum

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The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

I've listened to a lot of them, and I strongly recommend the audiobook.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

It is a fascinating way to spend time, but it's a lot.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

Either way, whether you read the six volumes or listen to the 126 hours.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

But I've dug deeply enough into the book to have absorbed its message for our time.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

And that's what I want to talk about today.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

Because this book remains, or this series of books, remains not only a tremendous monument of history, not only a great milestone in intellectual development, it continues to shape discourse in our own time in ways that are powerful, but also sometimes a little misleading.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

So let me explain what I mean, why this book is so relevant, and why I'm talking about it today.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

Edward Gibbon was a man of the Enlightenment.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

He was a secularist.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

He was someone who had what we would call a broadly liberal, that the word would not have been used that way in his time, but a broadly liberal view of politics.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

He was a man of great tolerance.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

He was an easygoing man, the opposite of a persecutor, the opposite of an advocate of any kind of arbitrary or absolute authority.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

So in that sense, a very modern figure.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

But in another way, as an historian, he was quite an old-fashioned figure, a backward-looking figure.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

His book written in 1776 or begun in 1776, the last volume was published a dozen years later in 1788, is very much under the imprint of the ideas of Niccolo Machiavelli, who lived 250 years before Edward Gibbon, and through Machiavelli to the classical literary tradition of the Romans and the Greeks.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

When Gibbon is explaining the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, he, again, is a very modern man.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

He uses not only literary evidence, he uses coins and inscriptions and all the techniques that were made available by archaeology as it existed in his time.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

And many of his ideas, as I say, are very strikingly modern.

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

But his central explanation of what happened to the Roman Empire

The David Frum Show
How Trump Could Break the 2026 Elections

is backward looking.