David Frum

He built a consulting business before switching to full-time journalism for the Never Trump fight.

I've been privileged to be his guest on many, many occasions on The Bulwark, and it's a pleasure to be able to return the hospitality at last.

Tim, thank you so much for joining me today.

I want to ask you just a brief question, because it's not impossible that there is someone who is unaware of The Bulwark.

Can you take us through the rich and varied Bulwark cinematic universe?

What is The Bulwark?

Where did it come from?

How did you join this group?

Sure.

Can we sum up the politics of the bulwark as pro-market anti-polio?

So you had a big outing last week.

You took the much of the staff, maybe all of the staff of the bulwark to Minneapolis to do a live performance there, but also to do some on the ground observation of a situation you have spoken so much about.

What did you see other than I see a lot of snow and ice?

You described it as an occupation.

Does Minneapolis still feel like a city under occupation?

The hand of an unwanted police presence?

Or does it feel like the hand is hidden and therefore it's not such an unwanted police presence?

This leads me to another,

More challenging question that you and I have talked about in the past, and I want to hear your views, and I think many people want to hear your views on.

Actually, I've got a couple of them that are a little more challenging.