David Frum

The first is I'm not at the cutting edge of the latest in Internet culture by any means.

Unfortunately, I do know about bone smashing, but that's only what people tell me.

Sometimes the internet culture gets to a point where I'm not even sure it exists.

I think it mostly exists in order to upset and shock people like me, not because there's any actual consumer of it.

Why?

I'm reading here in the New York Times about this very distressing thing that the young folks are doing.

folding the sound of newsprint shuffling.

Now, I wanted to ask you about something that, I don't know how real this is, but people keep up with this more than I do, tell me that there is a mood among the young, that there's something lame about the project that you're engaged in, and I guess I'm engaged in too, of standing up for what they would call resistance liberalism.

And this is somehow unfashionable, uncool.

And is this like a perception of something that actually exists, or is this just chat?

and let me if it's to the extent it exists let me ask you about two different strains that i can see for what's motivating it one is and there's just nothing to be done about this is real leftists who say look you're standing up here for the constitution the rule of law for international free trade for

You don't want to say open borders.

You just want to say orderly police procedures without abuses and without violence.

So you're not a real leftist.

You're not smashing the system.

You're not overturning the hierarchy.

You're not socializing the means of production.

You're not globalizing the intifada.

It's just lame.

So, okay, real leftists, I get why they would have a beef.