David Grinspoon

Well, that was his opinion.

Yes, yes.

It's been a long journey already.

We haven't even left the ground.

But for those of us who've been advocating and agitating for new Venus missions, and the good news is that we have several Venus missions, two American missions, Da Vinci and Veritas, which is an orbiter.

which very much complements DaVinci, which is an entry probe that descends down through the atmosphere to the surface.

And then there's also a European mission and an Indian space agency potential mission.

So a lot of agencies are getting into the game now.

But the one I'm most excited about, because I'm on the team and very involved with, is this DaVinci mission, which, if all goes well, will launch in the 2031 timeframe now.

As you probably have heard, NASA's had a little bit of turmoil with the budget.

You think?

A little bit, yeah.

Oh, yes, until fairly recently.

I was the senior scientist for astrobiology strategy at NASA.

Totally useless.

What a hoax.

I'll tell you what we need.

If I still had that job, I wouldn't be able to talk to you about some of the things I can talk to you about now.

But yeah, I'm still very fond of and close to NASA and working with NASA on a lot of projects.

I no longer am a NASA employee at the moment.