David Heinemeier Hansson

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5,915 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 26 Aug

David Heinemeier Hansson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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I know that was a controversial one too.

has this capacity to

Look at new information and mm

arrive at different conclusions.

I think the world has gotten too bland.

We need a little spice.

Now I think there's a fine line between being spicy and

and mean.

But y it has to be in a good spirit.

You could be

Harsh.

Let's put it that way.

If you're trying to uh impart a lesson to someone you believe could actually learn it,

I actually don't think it's always the worst thing in the world to be a little harsh.

Sometimes that lesson sticks.

And I think if you talk to people who've worked for difficult leaders.

Elon, Steve Jobs,

Maybe even Bill Gates.

many of them afterwards would go like, These were some very difficult years but also some of the very best.

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