David Heinemeier Hansson

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5,915 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 26 Aug

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #501 – DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Agentic Engineering, Vibe Coding & Linux · 26 Aug 2026 podcast

And then

Two years later they go, God damn it, this son of a bitch was right.

Yeah.

I I think the the the good thing about

My current position is um I really don't need the money.

So I get to build these things purely for my own enjoyment and purity of vision, which has this weird quality where sometimes when you stop caring about what everyone else thinks or wants or whatever, and you just pursue this singular vision, it ends up becoming far more appealing.

That it's when you try to do, oh, I should do.

This because these people want that, or I should do this and this and so you s start watering the thing down and suddenly it's a bland ball of nothing.

Yeah.

I mean, again, the thing too here is directionally, I just want computers to be this way.

So if Umachi should end up being just a a little footnote in history that it was part of this early movement of the agenteg OS and the malleable computer, that's also okay.

I'm completely at peace with that.

As long as I get to have a computer that is as fun to work with as Umachi, that's great.

I've had the same thing with Ruby and with Rails from

Very early I went, do you know what?

I love Ruby.

It's such a great programming language.

But if a better programming language comes along,

I mean, I'm I'm gonna use it.

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