David Heinemeier Hansson

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5,915 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 26 Aug

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Being sorry.

was uncanny.

Again, I don't know is that a real projection of true remorse?

But I don't know, with most humans, they express some level of regret.

Is that true remorse?

Uh hard to tell.

But

Maybe it also just doesn't matter.

I see it all the time in in the traces where it just reasons wrong.

Right?

It went down one alley and then it realizes that was blind alley and it's gotta go back.

And and so they're like, oh yeah, I got this wrong, and then I'll provide the reasons for why it think it got these things wrong.

Like, this is uncannyly a human like this is indistinguishable from the kind of consciousness you would recognize in a human.

Again, does that mean that it truly is or isn't

And I I don't need the answer to that question actually to be able to appreciate what we have in this moment.

Uh uh probably a year and a half.

We're gonna get the PETA of AI models.

I think where it's gonna be harder is once we put these systems into robots.

Yes.

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