David Heinemeier Hansson

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5,915 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2025 last heard 26 Aug

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #501 – DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Agentic Engineering, Vibe Coding & Linux · 26 Aug 2026 podcast

Mind blown.

Now, what was interesting about that experiment was A, it was that glimpse of the future, because it was kind of slow.

I think it took maybe twelve minutes to do the whole thing end to end, right?

Um now I should actually rerun that test.

I'd be shocked if it's not much faster.

I was just uh using uh the Grokbot thing, which has all these uh stuff built in for using the uh using browsers and using a computer and has its own dedicated computer without you having to set up a computer.

It's basically like uh claw in a box.

And I was asking it to sign up for something and it it it kind of I got a glimpse of like, Oh yeah, that's where we are now and it's so much faster to use.

But at the time I was just blown away and then I used it for a little bit and I found like

Uh, it's not there yet.

I can't actually communicate it with it in this way.

It still needs the CLI.

It still needs an MCP because it's just too slow and too token inefficient and and so forth.

But it was this glimpse of the fusion.

And then after that, I kind of just

didn't use it because the things I want to use agents for, I was mostly in front of my computer to do.

Now, that has changed a little bit lately, and is one of the reasons why I'm so kind of okay about using Claude Code, because Claude has the best.

mobile app where any session you start clawed code in your terminal on a computer is accessible through the app without you having to do anything at all.

And you can do a terminal.

Like I I installed Terminus and it can run her and so on, but it's a little cumbersome and you're doing live typing on a computer so you feel the latency.

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