David Hoffman

To add some ZK and then you're done.

Yep.

And then developer tooling and ecosystem integration.

Some of these details are going to happen, are going to emerge over the coming weeks.

And the hope there is that you get chains to opt in.

So one chain that would be nice, which is currently in L1, is the Gnosis chain.

So Martin, I guess one of the leads for the Gnosis chain, had said, if this works, the Gnosis chain might come back and might transfer from an L1 to an L2.

And why?

What's the reason?

Shared economics.

You get to tap into all of Ethereum's liquidity and this alliance can grow.

So it's kind of a, you know...

um a sum type story a sum is greater than the parts type story because every l2 that joins adds some more liquidity and they all kind of share it together so that's kind of the the alignment hope i don't know yet it's too early to see whether they can pull it off but the dream is still alive yeah this sounds like just based and native roll-ups applied yep is that what this is because i know martin was big on native roll-ups

Is this that?

Well, it's funny because Martin gave the talk at the same DevCon I was talking about about native roll-ups, right?

And so this is the manifestation of that.

And he thinks now it's kind of possible.

Maybe it's not quite native roll-ups in the way he talked about them as being completely homogenous, but for all intents and purposes, it feels kind of like a native roll-up.

And the bottom line is united liquidity, united network effect,

A much more coordinated ecosystem of chains.