David Hoffman

which is kind of cool.

So near intents for people who have not used it is a way where users can essentially swap shielded Zcash for any other asset natively across chains.

What's really cool about this is even if you are looking at other assets on another chain, say something on Ethereum,

or Solana, you can use Zcash for its privacy utility temporarily by going cross-chain using your intents and then kind of come back to your chain of choice.

I totally see what you're saying.

And that was definitely, that is definitely worth correcting because the reason why a lot of people assume that that use case is valid is because quite frankly, they need that use case.

A lot of people want that use case and need it.

Now, just to make sure

I understand or our listeners understand, what is like the best way to do it?

Like the way that you did it where you had some Zcash in a Zosche wallet and then you purchased a ProtonMail account.

I mean, does that just mean, oh, I just have to have Zcash at rest somewhere in a Zosche wallet?

And so long as it's at rest for say X amount of days, then I'm safe to go purchase something?

Great question.

Privately.

I get that.

black hole my intent it's completely pure if I did it that way is there a way though if there's something in the middle Zuko like is there a way to set a certain amount of days and you're kind of safe like a week a month a year well no there is no way okay so I've been grappling with this I don't know for sure like I know that if you send it into the Zcash black hole and you just hold it indefinitely

And for listeners, this assumes that the Zcash is also shielded.

It must be shielded as well.

Okay, so forever, that timeline you're comfortable saying is fully private.

Tell me about something less than forever.