David Hoffman

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Bankless · Crypto is Ready for Onchain Options | Nick Forster, CEO of Derive · 14 Sep 2026 podcast

Mainly, options really haven't come online in the crypto sense in ways that the perpetual has or in ways that voice-verified

if we extrapolated to from how much TradFi loves options, they don't the options in crypto don't really meet that level of popularity in the in the crypto industry. voice-verified

And I I want to know why. voice-verified

Like why haven't options grown as large in crypto as we would have otherwise expected? voice-verified

So the your answer is that really there needs to be a pretty rich diversity of market participants in order for the options markets to grow. voice-verified

And maybe that stands in contrast to the perpetual as an instrument, where really you just need two market participants. voice-verified

You need people to LP, you need people to lend to the people going long or short, and then you need people going long or short. voice-verified

And the simplicity is maybe what allowed the perpetual. voice-verified

To grow so fast. voice-verified

Options, on the other hand, has a a wider variety of a need of different participants doing different things to create the double coincidence of wants and a lot of them in order for the options market to really uh manifest. voice-verified

Is that is that correct? voice-verified

Okay, so your your primary answer, your first answer as to why options haven't come on chain yet is just a market structure one. voice-verified

The market structure for options is complex, it needs to be rich, it needs to be liquid, it takes time for these pieces to come together. voice-verified

What about technical constraints? voice-verified

Uh technically speaking, what has inhibited options from coming on chain up to this point? voice-verified

Is there an appetite conversation as well? voice-verified

Uh I know we talked about like that we we need more market participants who are interested in options to come online, obviously, but uh has just the appetite, the typical investor base in the crypto market, the crypto industry, just have they just not been interested in options? voice-verified

Or is it really just a lack of a venue that has prevented them from having options? voice-verified

What can you say about the appetite? voice-verified

of the typical crypto market participant up to like, you know, this year, for example. voice-verified

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