David Jones

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After four bids, the latest thought to be £15 million, Liverpool insist they're still talking to Villa.

I was captain of a massive football club at Aston Villa.

I've been there 10, 11 years.

Your brain starts ticking a bit.

Are you ready for a new challenge?

what is happening with Gareth Barry.

I was talking with Martin Neil privately before, so he knows our ideas clearly.

Rafa phoned me up, offered me a host of players that I didn't really want.

Then it was a case of, right, what do I need to do to get the move done?

It was just like lobbing a hand grenade.

It was fuming.

Fine two weeks wages, banned from the training ground.

If he'd gone to Liverpool in the manner in which he did, he wouldn't have gone with my blessing.

I would never have spoken to him again.

To make that so personal against Martin O'Neill.

I'm amazed he ever actually played for Aston Villa again.