David Koepp

Oh.

You've got to have 80 years of context.

Okay.

You've got to be able to, he steals 80 years of the truth that has been hidden from the public and even from the government because, you know, it's very hard for elected officials to keep secrets.

But in a way, contracted, you know, deep state contract companies, contracted companies, they're pretty good at keeping secrets.

There's not a lot of leaks from the big tech companies or even— Unless there's a mutiny, as in Disclosure Day.

And there have been whistleblowers that went to the House Intelligence Committee and gave their testimony.

you know, Grush, Fravor, and Ryan.

Sworn under oath, yeah.

Sworn under oath.

In 2023, yeah.

In 2023, in front of Congress and the American public.

The trigger for the whole idea was the New York Times article.

Yes, yes.

And that was the trigger for me, which was the first time we ever heard the term tic-tac being used instead of UFO.

Because first it was UFO, and then it was tic-tac, and then we hear something called UAP.

It's all confusing.

You know, unidentified anomalous phenomenon.

They're talking about UFOs.

I like UFOs.