David McCloskey

That is inside the British Army.

So Scappaticci, do we know when and how he's recruited?

I mean, I guess it seems to have been around 1978 or around then, but do we know why they recruit Scapp?

Yeah, not his profile.

He seems to actually enjoy the violence to some degree.

Exactly.

Has it been disputed simply because of the fact that he was a walk-in?

I mean, I'm applying the sort of CIA lens to this, but I often think volunteers, walk-ins oftentimes end up becoming very valuable assets.

But is the dispute around that piece of it, or is it more around the dynamics of his personality?

It doesn't fit.

What's the skepticism drawn from?

As we'll see, I think given the duration of his cooperation with the FRU, I suppose some amount of legal leverage could have been part of the initial pitch, the initial recruitment.

But I don't see blackmail as a kind of sustainable dynamic in the relationship because it'll last for just so many years, as we'll see.

It couldn't be the only piece.

I don't think it could be the only piece.

It's like a it's potentially a piece of the puzzle, but it's not the whole puzzle.

In his memoir, Wilsey writes of his skillful and quirky sergeant, he bided his time until intuitively he judged the moment right to cast his fly.

He then hooked and landed his fish.

The fish represented the security force's biggest intelligence breakthrough at the time, and arguably...

the army's most significant contribution to the whole campaign.