David McCloskey

What's he providing?

What information is of such value that we can even consider this trade-off in the way that SCAP is handled?

I know that Clapham is a part of London.

It is in South London.

Very good.

Yes, there is a Clapham Common.

What is Clapham Junction?

That's confusing.

I guess you have a fundamental, I guess in some ways, operational dilemma, which is if SCAP knows about five upcoming operations, attacks, whatever...

If you use the information he provides to disrupt all of them, you raise questions about, well, where do those breaches come from?

And it could potentially get back to your agent, right?

So you have to be thoughtful about how you use his information, what you let go, what you disrupt, and how you do it, right?

Yeah.

So there's an operational dilemma in running this sort of source.

There's also a fundamental moral dilemma, which is...

This is exactly the kind of agent you want because if you're the British state, you see yourself as being, we're at war with a terrorist organization.

Again, this would be the British state's mentality.

We need people inside that organization to provide us information about what's going on.

But at the same time, recruiting people inside those organizations means you're going to tend to not recruit angels.

You're going to recruit people who, again, from the standpoint of the