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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

as the aggressor here, whereas the drug issue is,

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I think does allow, obviously there's the reality that Maduro and associates around him are involved in the drug trade and have profited from it extensively, right?

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And the reality that Maduro has overseen socioeconomic and cultural collapse in Venezuela that has seen 8 million people or so leave the country, and he's an incredibly corrupt and awful dictator.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

So you have all of that going for you if you're Trump,

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

it makes it very easy to paint what happened over the weekend

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

in almost defensive terms.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

We're defending the American people from somebody who's seeking to corrode us from within with his cocaine and fentanyl.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I mean, he's talked about it constantly, although since he was very adamant and open in his press conference over the weekend that the opening of the Venezuelan oil industry was

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

in particular to U.S.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

companies is very much top of mind for him.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

It's clearly played a role in this.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And I think also you go back into the summer and the spring as this idea about what you do about Venezuela is starting to kind of gel inside the White House.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I mean, the genesis for a lot of this was

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

This kind of conflict between different interest groups in the states of like you have these kind of anti Maduro, you know, Venezuelans in the states, anti kind of leftist, you know, Latin Americans, Cubans in the states who want Maduro gone.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Right.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

They sort of want these leftist.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

dictators pushed out.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

And then you also have the reality that Chevron, the US oil and gas company, pushing Trump to kind of potentially force Chevron to get out of Venezuela, which Trump doesn't want to do.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

So you have this weird nexus of like, how do I solve both of these problems at the same time, and potentially get more American companies involved in developing what could be the rich prize of Venezuela's crumbling and shambling oil infrastructure.