David Pakman

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This is Gavin Newsom · And, This Is How Social Media Will Decide the Next Election With David Pakman · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

to the DSA, actual socialists, which by the way, a lot of them aren't actual socialists, but some of them are doesn't really matter.

A lot of this is labeling.

If the alternative is a terrible centrist Democrat that helps this DSA movement.

If there are interesting people that are to the left of the centrist Democrats but not socialists, that's the best thing that they can do in a lot of these districts.

The other thing is Michigan.

And Iowa and Connecticut and New York City are very different places.

And this is a huge country with a lot of different people.

So I think it's difficult to make any kind of overarching prediction about something like that.

What is it?

For me, centrist is you're basically happy with how things are.

And you're satisfied with the changes you want to make being...

really on the fringes.

Yeah.

And incrementalism, I'm OK with.

I mean, Ted Kennedy was an incrementalist and he had a lot of incremental successes that he spearheaded in the Senate.

But it's things are basically fine.

And I don't want to change much of anything.

I think we need more than that.

I'm not socialism.

Right.

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