David Pakman

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This is Gavin Newsom · And, This Is How Social Media Will Decide the Next Election With David Pakman · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

That's number two.

And then number three, understanding at a systemic level why the right has been better at this, because if you don't understand that, you can't possibly change it.

So those are the three things.

I would say I think politics has been more political for longer than maybe we want to acknowledge.

But what we've lost is the ability to have disagreements that don't need to ruin interpersonal relationships.

And that I think, you know, there's a lot of people now who are very uncomfortable with the fact that there's a disagreement.

And sometimes I'll say, you know, I know X person in real life and we disagree, but but we're able to get along.

How is that possible?

Well, because there's multiple dimensions to people and maybe you don't relate to someone as an elected official, but you relate to them as a parent or you relate to them as a Latino person or in some other way.

And it's become very toxic, accelerated by these platforms where because all you do is argue on Twitter.

When you get together and there's a sporting event or an entertainment thing, the assumption is we have to have bad blood and we can't just sit in the same room.

We've got to do away with that.

And again, the whole the interactions online are toxic.

The interactions in person are very polite and respectful.

I think the in-person has a lot to do with that.

There are a lot of creators.

Shows where we have just two people going back and forth.

There's a lot of shows out there like that right now.

I think that they are diminishing a little bit.

A year to 18 months ago, I would have said these inflammatory debates and some of them are one on one, some are four on four, some are one on 20.

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