David Pakman

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This is Gavin Newsom · And, This Is How Social Media Will Decide the Next Election With David Pakman · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

I mean, this is it's like almost ancient history to people who are now 25 and voted for the first time.

I mean, I did a commentary that's on my show today, which is making this exact analogy, which is there was a time before Trump in the Tea Party era where the establishment Republican Party kind of said,

These people are never going to influence the party.

They're never going to guide the direction.

And the Tea Party really led to MAGA and to Trumpism.

Yeah.

And I, you know, I've been critical of the kind of what I call do nothing centrism, which is like, let's find a couple of things on the fringes to say we will do and end up doing nothing.

I don't think that's good for the Democratic Party.

Right.

But also what I'm seeing, I was just looking at the DSA platform.

which it has moral motivations that I respect, but a lot of completely unrealistic stuff that if it becomes litmus test worthy is going to be a real problem for Democrats.

And so I don't know when the right time is to have that conversation.

I tend to think it's as soon as you realize something's up, it's a good time to do it without saying, well, if we talk about it now, how will it affect the midterms?

I think now is when it has to be talked about.

I think social democracy is the path forward, which is a sort of Northern European model.

Well, listen, I think everybody is in a sense contributing to this.

And also I think the best thing we can do is identify the systems that are at play and then figure out what are our choices.

One choice is we just kind of abandon it.

If we abandon it, we seed ground to those with terrible ideas to completely dominate.

I don't think that's a good idea.

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