David Pakman

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86,033 appearances 135 recordings 4 series first heard May 2023 last heard yesterday

David Pakman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And the other aspect to this that I think is important is that when we think about what should happen in the United States, all of this talk about like end this, slow that down, etc., it is true. podcast-host
Like the China Trump has sort of stumbled across something that is true, which is listen, China's doing XYZ. podcast-host
And that's true. podcast-host
China doing XYZ isn't the reason I think we need to be continuing with AI development, but in some kind of careful way. podcast-host
It's that it's pointless to simply talk about suppression. podcast-host
Like Trump's concern is this we can't let China blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. podcast-host
My concern is because you can't control what other countries are going to do, any moratoria that you put in place. podcast-host
In the United States are basically going to be a waste of time because who knows how many other countries, but certainly dozens, if not more, are going to continue proceeding forward and Americans are going to be able to access that. podcast-host
So for me, it's more about the futility of focusing on let's do the moratorium rather than Trump's instincts about, well, China wants this and China wants that. podcast-host
That's interesting because I think it's easy. podcast-host
Regardless. podcast-host
We are um also, I mean, I'm very interested in seeing further reports about these specific instances where AI has jumped the rails, so to speak. podcast-host
What I really want to understand is, you know, when when people go, I'm worried AI is just gonna kill us all, or something like that. podcast-host
I don't think that many people necessarily have a grasp of exactly what it would take for that to happen. podcast-host
And to be honest, like I have some ideas of of things that could take place, but I don't really know how plausible they are. podcast-host
Like, for example, one of the things that's being floated is, you know, one of the things that AI could do is it could take control of water treatment plants and basically like reverse them and run the raw sewage into the water that we get out of our out of our podcast-host
First of all, could AI really do that? podcast-host
And I know that people will say, David, you're being so naive. podcast-host
It might not be able to do that now, but it learns and it could be certainly able to do that six months from now. podcast-host
I don't know physically what would be required for quote AI to reverse water treatment and send raw sewage into our houses as drinking water. podcast-host
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