David Parkin

I think we're a bit weird, the coaches.

We're not rational sometimes.

I'm sure there's a belief piece there that he's a waver, of course, and there's a little bit of hope there.

But if you lose your hope and your belief, then there's no point.

G'day, Gerard.

Oh, yes.

It's something I must admit I didn't expect Gerard to be quite truthful.

I thought he'd be encouraged to see out the contract and I was even hoping that things might turn and...

he remained the Carlton coach for some time.

But obviously I was a long way off the mark.

Yeah, it's interesting for someone who's worked at, I've worked at three or four probably different organizations

AFL clubs over or VFL and AFL clubs over a period of time.

And Jared, you're quite right.

They all have, um, very different makeups in terms of the history that they have, um, been a part of the people, the kind of people, the personalities, if you like, or the characters that get into what I would call a, uh, presidential and committee and, uh, board positions in those clubs.

And, uh,

it seems that that culture, if you like, over a period of time is very, very difficult to change.

And I think that's, you know, I sense and feel that for the clubs that I worked in.

When I got there, I found that they were all significantly different in their makeup and that you needed to understand the values and drivers that that club were sitting on if you were going to work in it and be successful.

So,

It's a very demanding job, as you well know, better than anybody else I would have suggested.