David Paulides

Okay, so no tuberculosis, scars, the bullet.

So I'm talking to Carl and I said, well, why do you think they sent you back?

He says, well, I think it's because I had a vasectomy.

I said, oh, did they say anything to you about that?

No.

Okay.

So he was 91 years old when I interviewed him.

Sharp as a tack.

How old was he when this encounter happened?

I think he was 38, 39.

And again, this happened in the Medicine Bow National Forest.

Medicine Bow is directly, I'd say about 75 miles northwest of Cheyenne.

So at about the same time, the Air Force Base in Cheyenne is having a group of cluster UFO sightings above the ICBM sites.

And that was never made public at this time.

It was 30, 40, 50 years later through Robert Hastings and other Air Force personnel came out that these documents started to show up.

So Carl would have never known.

what was happening at the same time these things in Cheyenne were happening.

And then you think about what's going on in Wyoming that would cause this.

But really the epiphany to me with Carl is there's a lot of people in the woods that are found, quote unquote, they fell.

They always fall alone.