David Paulides

We've traded with them at times.

What?

They trade things with us at times.

Sometimes they will give them ornaments or certain kinds of foods that they have a tough time getting, and they will come back and they will give them certain kinds of food, animals, et cetera.

But in this story on the front page of the Oregonian, they talk about this.

And when I've gone to the Pacific Northwest, and Joe, there's not one tribe up there that believes they're an animal.

None of them do.

And they're the ones that have lived with them and handed these stories down over the ages.

So there's a man who owned a herd of cattle and was wintering them on the Oregon, California border up north of Crescent City.

And every year he'd done this.

This one year, this is another article in the paper.

This one year, they winter with the Native Americans there.

He sees this Native American walking with a tray of food.

Doesn't think much of it the first day.

Second day, he sees the guy walk up into the mountains up to this cliff area.

Guy comes back and he says, hey, what's that for?

He goes, I can't talk to you about that.

So he goes straight to the chief.

He owns all the cattle.

He's working with the Native Americans.