David Pierce

Well, and I think if you take it that way and you kind of let podcasts... kind of be everything and nothing at the same time. Then just to keep going back to Elliot management for a second, right? Like the idea of doing that, all you're really talking about is like a new file format in a certain way, right? Like it's, it's a different structure for doing something.

But it's not necessarily totally different. I'm not saying my goal for this content is to reach you while you're driving to work because that's what podcasts are for. It's just a different way of making the same kind of thing that they've been making forever, whether it's shareholder letters or angry tweets or whatever.

But it's not necessarily totally different. I'm not saying my goal for this content is to reach you while you're driving to work because that's what podcasts are for. It's just a different way of making the same kind of thing that they've been making forever, whether it's shareholder letters or angry tweets or whatever.

But it's not necessarily totally different. I'm not saying my goal for this content is to reach you while you're driving to work because that's what podcasts are for. It's just a different way of making the same kind of thing that they've been making forever, whether it's shareholder letters or angry tweets or whatever.

This is just the next version of that because this is the media that people are consuming now. And they're consuming it not just in their headphones in Spotify, but everywhere. And so if you want to make something that lots of people see, actually making a podcast is about as quick and easy a way to get there as you can.

This is just the next version of that because this is the media that people are consuming now. And they're consuming it not just in their headphones in Spotify, but everywhere. And so if you want to make something that lots of people see, actually making a podcast is about as quick and easy a way to get there as you can.

This is just the next version of that because this is the media that people are consuming now. And they're consuming it not just in their headphones in Spotify, but everywhere. And so if you want to make something that lots of people see, actually making a podcast is about as quick and easy a way to get there as you can.

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

Do you think it's as simple in that case as just this is where the audience is now or is there still something about... the form of the podcast itself that feels different. Like, I'm still hung up on this idea that spending three hours with Joe Rogan is different in some meaningful way that I have trouble putting my finger on than even doing a, you know, six-minute TV hit on CNBC.