David Plouffe

I think this is the way Democrats can finally get out of the hole on immigration and get on their front foot.

So, first of all, you mentioned something interesting.

That was a long time ago, but historically not that long ago.

And those comments, I believe, were in Iowa or South Carolina.

It was during the Democratic primary.

I mean, I remember in 2007, 2008, in some of the early primary states, you'd get really challenging questions on immigration from Democratic caucus goers.

So this wasn't appealing to right-of-center swing voters in the state of Indiana that we're trying to win.

Right.

And I think not much has changed, which is we need a secure border.

We need to obviously make sure to the extent we have enforcement, it should be focused on those who could or have committed violent felonies who are here illegally.

But the rest of Obama's point is where most of America is.

They still want the ability for people who are working hard, contributing their community to have a pathway.

So.

Now, with what's happening in Minnesota, not just in Minnesota, I mean, first of all, ICE is an economic issue.

You remember Iraq back in the 2000s became as much an economic issue as a foreign policy issue.

Voters said, hey, why are we spending all this time and money and attention in Iraq, not rebuilding my community here in my home?

We're spending all this money on ICE.

By the way, a Democrat could say we should actually be funding more police jobs to keep our community safe, not ICE.

So I think you're exactly right.

I think a Democrat who says, let me tell you something, I believe in a secure border.