David Plouffe

So to the extent that candidates can show areas where they're going to stand up to their party, be different, I think they will benefit from that.

And at the end of the day, we don't know what 28 or 30 or 32 are going to hold, Tim.

We know that 26 likely Democrats will have tailwinds.

So when you are a national party and you have tailwinds, the challenge is to maximize every seat you could potentially win in a positive electoral atmosphere.

And so it means if you're going to win some seats that are on the outer edge of competitiveness, they're going to be run by people who are maybe they are very right of center.

Maybe they challenge the Democratic leadership.

But those are the types of people that can win those types of seats in a tailwind scenario.

It's changed a lot.

Listen, I worked for Dick Gephardt when he was the House Democratic leader.

And, you know, he would do Sunday shows and he'd have a weekly press conference.

No, but I think he was an effective communicator.

But the point was it was 90 percent behind the scenes.

Yeah.

World's changed.

Yeah.

I would argue maybe not for good.

But but, you know, I do think that the most important people in 26 and then ultimately in 28, of course, will be our candidates, less Washington.

But the folks in Washington have more of a megaphone now than they used to because of social media.

And so you basically need to put on a performance every day.

What are you driving?