David Remnick

That's the crucial point.

And 60 Minutes, as great as it is, years ago, and the New Yorker—

reported on this, really bad sexual harassment problem.

There's also an ideological agenda that seems in play here.

I don't think that's being unfair.

And it shows itself kind of week after week.

Is that such an original idea?

And he said that with a straight face.

Now, Barry Weiss did not want to talk to you on the record, but you talked to a lot of people at CBS.

If one were to walk into that building, what's the mood there?

I mean, it's gotten to the point

where the host of the Golden Globes in her, you know, comic opening, which was on CBS, which was on CBS, took time to insult CBS News under Barry Weiss.

Let's hear that for a second.

Now, does Barry Weiss take that on the chin, or does she say, sure, Hollywood, you know, liberal Hollywood doesn't like me.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Where is this story going?

I mean, it has to change because the old formula is boring as can be.

The last time I looked, the Evening News is not an opinion magazine.

Yeah.

Not a liberal, not a conservative, not a centrist one.