David Shackleton

Yeah, so we've been building our business for quite a while.

And, you know, I think where I most enjoy stuff is kind of creating products and bringing them to market and bring them to scale.

And we kind of rolled Ding out.

Ding is active in 125 countries.

Got a really good experience management team in there.

And it's kind of on its own path.

We did some M&As.

We bought anybody in the space that made sense.

And the business continues to grow well.

So, you know, I was kind of

had an itch to scratch to build something new.

And we'd been working on OpenBAC for a while as a sort of a side project, but it's got real potential for kind of real scale to change part of how the internet works.

So mobile top up is like cell phone minutes.

So outside the US, you know, you top up your phone.

So you add value, you buy value for your phone.

And then as you use the internet or make calls, it depletes your balance.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So that's the value we've transferred.

And it's mostly migrant workers topping up, adding value to their families back home.