David Shackleton

We've needed time to really get the platform right, make sure the architecture scales, work with early customers to really deliver the kind of UX for their business users.

And so that's taken a bit of time.

And we didn't really know, were we going to nail that and figure that out in six months or 12 months?

And those can be tough if you're going to kind of more, I guess, not venture debt, but venture capital route.

you know, sometimes there's a bit more pressure on to, you know, you got to get it right and it's got to work or else your cap table maybe doesn't look as good as it could do.

And we were lucky to be in a position to.

Sure.

Sure.

Well, I don't know.

Certainly the people I've talked to in Europe on the venture debt side haven't felt our profile of business.

The stage we're at was right for venture debt.

Yeah.

Favorite business book.

Well, I just, I got to say Shoe Dog.

I just finished reading it and it was great.

A full night story.

I'm definitely following Jack Dorsey closely.

I was fascinated on his recent trip to India and to Japan and we spent some time testing the trajectories, bringing that business up.

I got to say Google Sheets.

Married, two young kids, four and seven.