David Wallace-Wells
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 12 Aug
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It's telling that you're even saying revenue is not profits, right?
Yeah, I mean it's it's another way in which this the the story that I was telling at the at the top of our conversation about the narrative reset seems to hold.
Like it seems possible that in the relatively near future, anthropic and open AI are not gonna be as central to the way that we're thinking about these things as has been the case for the last couple of years.
But, you know, it it also makes me wonder if that if we're if we're expecting something like that to play out.
Where AI is here to stay, it's significant, it is meaningfully driving economic growth, but we see the decline or even collapse of a couple of these massively valued companies.
What does that look like to the average American?
What are the ripple effects to people who own stock, but also just like people who are looking
at the unemployment rate and GDP growth, like
It's like the self-dealing of these companies is actually a safeguard against it punishing us.
There's also, I think, a kind of a possible cultural fallout, which is to say if there's a dramatic change in the um AI outlook, um, even if it doesn't produce a huge market correction at the level of 2008 or 1999 or whatever, um
People will still think.
What was that?
Like those five years when all of our cultural capital, all of our literal capital was being dumped into the thing.
I I think it could, you know, it could produce a kind of significant cultural backlash, not unlike what happened after 2008, even if the consequences aren't that bad because people just say,
Why were we told that this was the future?
Why did so many people bet on it when we could have been investing in other ways?
Now, you know, like you, I have complicated feelings about the this whole landscape and where it's heading.
I think there are probably meaningful benefits that are coming our way from this technology.
I don't want to sound like a Luddite on it or even a populist, but I do taking the sort of um sense of the, you know, the way the
wind is blowing, it feels likely that even in a relatively good draw draw here, we still may be producing some meaningful public resentment and background.
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