David Zweig
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard May 2025
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And then you don't have to worry about the hospitals being overwhelmed. And they had all these models saying two million people will die within the next X number of months if you don't do exactly what we're told. And they show you the graph. So a regular person, oh, my God, look what happens with the cases if we don't listen. But if we follow directions, then this will happen.
And part of those directions was closing schools. In part, this was based on made up figures.
One thing she does admit, she sort of touches on that. One thing she does admit is that the 15 days, she never had an intention of stopping there. She purposefully didn't tell the president or the American people. And she admits this, candidly.
Yeah. Let me just reel them in once they're already locked into it. It's like the frog in the pot. They're not going to, oh, we'll just go on. So that 15 days, people may forget. 15 days. To slow the spread. 15 days to slow the spread. Then they added another 30 days on right at the end. And same with the gatherings. Yes, we can touch on this. I mean, but a huge part of my book is about the media.
It's really a work of media criticism. Imagine this, the entire master switch for our country is shut down. We have 15 days. Everyone's like, okay, let's all do this together. This is a scary new virus. At the end of 15 days, they're like, we're going to make it 30 more days. Where was any of the questioning from the media? It was crickets. They just were, let's keep going.
There were some, but yes, it was very few.
No. And that's a large part of my book was this sort of conjunction between the media and the health establishment and how the media, which normally supposed to be skeptical. And normally, particularly when you think of the liberal media, of which I used to count myself a part of. Where their entire thing here was, throughout time, what's a journalist's job?
It's to be skeptical of those in power. The government, the defense department, the church, all these large institutions, big businesses. Yet that evaporated. in the pandemic. So you had this circumstance where you had these bogus models that we were told, if you do these things, it's going to affect cases in such and such manner. And everyone's like, oh, that looks official.
It's from these fancy colleges. Deborah Burke, she's wearing a nice silk scarf. She looks like she's smart. I'll listen to her. She looks a school mommy. Yeah. Fauci is telling us this, you know, oh, we'll listen to them. But no one bothered to really investigate what was the underlying information? What was the underlying data that fed into these various models?
So I spend a lot of time on this and in the book. And what I believe that I show persuasively is that unfortunately, this all comes down to tribalism, that political tribalism. We had such an, and I shouldn't use past tense, had, we have such an acrimonious political environment in our country. And the fact of the matter is most of the legacy or, you know, prestige media outlets, uh,
are left-leaning, almost everyone there. Most of the people within public health also share that political persuasion. And what I show is that time and again, there's a zillion examples of this, that it was this sort of what I call like Newtonian physics. With every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. When Trump said... opened the schools, that was it.
He basically ensured that they would be closed.
And then- That's right. So the American Academy of Pediatrics comes out with this guidance early on saying, no matter what, let's get kids in school. And on top of that, they said, don't worry about six feet of distancing. If you can do it, great. But if you can't, let's just get the kids in school. This is the most important thing. It was unambiguous what they meant.
Shortly thereafter, Trump tweets in all caps with like a million exclamation points as is his way. Schools need to open in the fall. Within days, the American Academy of Pediatrics reversed its guidance. It was so stark. It was so crazy, the reversal that even NPR had reported on at the time. Gone was any mention of, you know, don't worry about distancing. That was out.
Gone was the idea of no matter what, get kids in school. That was out. Instead, the new statement was, listen to the experts. Oh, God. And On top of that, something that was missing in the earlier guidance, we need money and lots of it if you want to open these schools. And here's the last thing that's interesting about the revised statement.
It's not what's in the statement, but it's who authored the statement. And it wasn't the American Academy of Pediatrics by itself. It was co-authored with the two largest teachers unions in the country.
I think public health and the media are the bigger villains because ultimately the teachers unions couldn't have made this outlandish list of demands that they did in so many places without having the cover of the media and public health saying these things. And I recount all sorts of stuff in the book.
Had Anthony Fauci and everyone else within the public health establishment said, hold on, none of this stuff is true that they're demanding. I have a whole long section in there about these claims about needing HEPA filters and HVAC upgrades. No one was challenging that. And believe me,
Anthony Fauci was in front of a camera every single day, gave a zillion interviews, and tons of public health pundits. There was this one emergency medicine physician who I talk about in the book quite a bit.
She gave hundreds of interviews constantly on the speed dial at the New York Times and other places, even though she had no particular expertise in infectious diseases or any of these interventions. She was now an expert. She was on speed dial. None of these people... said a word that this is completely bogus.
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