David Zweig
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193 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard May 2025
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And I haven't even mentioned learning loss, which obviously is the most overt that people rightfully so are continuing to talk about. There are so many things that we're affecting, and it's not a small number, millions and millions of kids, including we can touch on kids who have learning disabilities. And it's something like 7 million of them, I think.
get an IEP, which is like a special program that they're required to get by law. And some of these things require them to have physical therapy. You can't do that through a computer screen. Children with severe autism, children with all sorts of physical and variety of neurological challenges and disabilities. These kids, unless you lived in a very wealthy family,
They were screwed and they still haven't come back from this.
Like the TikTok videos of everyone.
I think, yeah, I don't know what's in the mind of all the teachers. Some of them definitely appear to have taken advantage. Others, I think, genuinely were frightened by a media that, you know, if it bleeds, it leads. And I talk about this in the book. The American media was unique in its dialing the knob up to 11. for hysteria over this.
And there was some research out of Dartmouth where they sort of do like a content, like tone analysis. And the US was off the charts in the way we covered this phenomena that was happening. Whereas, and I talk about this, there was an article in the New York Times that came out on the very, that was like hysterical about if schools open, this is what could happen. And there's like...
flames practically shooting out of the screen if you're reading the article. On the very same day, an article came out in what's known as the BMJ. It's the British Medical Journal. And the title was something like, kids are not super spreaders, open the schools.
The dichotomy on this one day of these two articles couldn't be more stark and more emblematic of the difference of how we were experiencing the pandemic here in America versus other places. This It's not to say that they were flawless outside the United States, but there was something uniquely hysterical about the response in America.
We are a country that was ill-equipped to function under duress. And I understand why... people felt that Trump had poisoned the well to such a degree that, that ultimately they had to react in this manner. But those are reasons, not excuses.
That is not like the idea that someone, he was so odious to them, such TDS, as you were saying that it didn't, I mean, Trump could say, I love puppies and vanilla ice cream. And they would say, I hate puppies. I hate vanilla. It didn't matter. So there was such an environment created that all of these people were terrified.
Only a very small portion had the courage, like Martin Kulldorff and others, to come out and say, you know what? Trump is right. He's right on something. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, even if you disagree with him on everything. But they couldn't do it. The media just couldn't bring itself to possibly agree with
this man, even on something that he was so clearly right that millions of kids in school in Europe, it didn't matter.
They can't let it go. And the idea that they were misled, but your job as a journalist is to ask questions.
to not allow to simply quote an expert, so to speak, an expert on something without asking, well, wait, what's the evidence behind that claim? Or if you don't ask them, then go report it out yourself and dig into it. And that's what I started doing from the beginning. I was like, I thought it was so strange. We kept being told all these things. School is dangerous.
The kids, they might spread it to everyone. And all these various claims. I'm like, wait a minute, is that true? And I couldn't speak to people in the United States. So I started talking to experts in Europe. And I'm like, let me find someone, anyone who knows what's going on. And I was like, well, wait a minute. This is all bullshit. Everything they're saying is made up.
I know there might be some listeners or viewers who are thinking that I'm overstating things. They might think that this is hyperbole. I'm telling you, if you read the book, it's deeply destabilizing. But I hope also really instructive to see how... wildly off so much of the information we were given was. And it's easy for the media to make these claims.
Trump said plenty of crazy things himself where he, oh, the virus is just going to go away. And they misquoted him about the bleach thing and whatever else. There are plenty of crazy things. It's not hard to find something from Trump or from QAnon or whatever. And that's where the media kind of dug its hooks in. Mm-hmm.
But what no one was doing was looking, of course, with the mirror at themselves. And it's much more upsetting when the experts, I don't listen to QAnon. I don't take my guidance on how to conduct myself or what's happening. But I used to listen to the CDC. I used to listen to the NIH. And what I show is that these people deeply, deeply let us down.
Seasonality.
I had written one of the articles challenging one crazy rule or another, which all of my work, none of it's been retracted. As far as I'm aware, there's no giant corrections in any of them. This doesn't mean I don't make mistakes, but directionally, everything I wrote was true. And one of the articles, I remember my wife was talking with a friend of hers about it. And I think at this point I'd,
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