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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I'm like, there's no way a lending market come in this year in just one year and get to a few billion dollars in loans issued, but they did it.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

Yeah, I think the dominance stays relatively flat, if not reduces a little bit.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

The only caveat is if they introduce a season two points program, but they're actually performing phenomenally.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

Even in the face of like all of these incentives, their OI has remained persistently high and they're charging fees and people are still trading there even though they're charging fees, whereas they go to lighter where nobody is charging fees, right?

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

At least on the taker side.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

But the way I suspect this year will pan out is you're going to have many more perp taxes, many more points programs.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

But maybe towards the end of the year, early next year, you're going to see a little bit of a consolidation.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And what I suspect that consolidation will look like is I think hyperliquid is here to stay.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

The HIP3 markets are here to stay.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

We could have a zero fee perp tax.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And the reason why is because a lot of front ends who want to integrate a perp tax in the back end,

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

It's higher EV to basically integrate a perp tax that A, obviously has deep liquidity, but B, doesn't charge fees so they could charge their own take rate.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

So again, that could be somebody like Lighter.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And maybe the third type of exchange I could see taking off is an RFQ style platform.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

This could be somebody like Ostium or Variational.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

To not get too deep in the intricacies of how it works, they're just better positioned to offer things like RWA perps.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

It's a good question.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I don't think Robinhood or Coinbase and hyperliquid competing is very likely.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

Hyperliquid is really laser focused on the growth of these HIP3 markets and probably getting more into things like cross margin with different assets and such.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

So I wouldn't say that's necessarily the case.