Davina McCall

Knowing that you have no control over someone else is helpful.

But I also...

you know wanted to ask you about how you navigated losing the father of your beautiful daughter because then suddenly you are alone you are a single parent and there's so many different yeah there's so many different aspects she's lost a dad but I think everyone has a slightly different kind of practical things that will happen that will affect them

You know, because, you know... You had a mess to clean up.

Not saying that he left you a mess, but it's just how it... It was just the fallout.

How did you talking about that...

it helped you because you'd held on to it for 12 years.

Please will you say what she told you to say because I thought this was so brilliant.

And it was just such a... I read that for the first time, learning about you and this whole experience.

And I thought, what a great way of explaining it.

Can I just tell you, I'm so... Thank you.

It feels really special to me to be able to be with you and go through something like this with you.

So thank you.

Me too.

I'm still kind of like blown away by everything that you were going through at one time in your life because you were talking about selling your house, not just to pay off debts, but to start a business.

And it's like, which makes me think of when women get pregnant and then they go, and we're going to move.

But, you know, you'd gone through this huge trauma

But at the same time, Trini London is born.

Because you were starting that before.

Am I right in saying before he died?