Davina McCall

Yeah.

After you guys split up, it wasn't like you didn't speak.

I mean, there was no animosity, really.

It felt like an incredibly...

When Johnny was 50, he took his own life.

And there will be many people, sadly, this isn't a unique experience for people.

And having spoken, obviously, getting to our age, we've got lots of friends who either are approaching or going through or have been through.

We've gone through this phase of our life, but there'll be people listening who are either heading towards it or in it.

And...

It is a little bit like you were talking about what do you want?

Michael talks about this a lot with men, of like getting to an age where you realise that you never achieved what you wanted.

and that being the crisis.

And you went through something with Johnny which will help other people who potentially either have gone through something similar to you or it may have just happened to them and you're 11 years down the line.

How are you now?

And how did you handle it back then?

I mean, it was such a shock, but maybe not.

I don't know how.

The world would be better without me in it.

I also think that there is a lot of things in recovery that help you handle really, really tough moments in your life.

Going to meetings gives you some tools.