Davina McCall

Yes.

It's really hard.

How did you do it?

I think, um... Today, I am joined by the incredible Dabla Mescal, a brilliant author, and mum of Nell, Donika, and Paul Mescal.

She shares how we often find ourselves growing smaller just to survive in a world that doesn't always make space for you.

My voice rattled inside me for a long time.

I think it's what we want for our kids, that their voice is heard.

I've got something for you as well.

Just brace yourself, okay?

We talk about falling in love and how life has got an unrelenting way of really testing your strength together as a couple.

You've been married how many years now?

32.

The hardest job I have ever done.

And she talks really honestly about some of her darkest moments.

This is the body that was in the battle of my whole life.

But I think one message from her comes through so clearly.

You're always allowed to unfold and it's never too late to begin again.

Davla Mescal.

I love the fact that we were messaging each other last night.

That's so cute.